1 00:00:09,669 --> 00:00:07,349 late last week there was a new satellite 2 00:00:11,430 --> 00:00:09,679 launcher that got its first tryout 3 00:00:14,150 --> 00:00:11,440 aboard the international space station 4 00:00:16,790 --> 00:00:14,160 the device is known as cyclops and it 5 00:00:19,510 --> 00:00:16,800 helped with the deployment of a 6 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:19,520 naval research laboratory payload called 7 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:23,199 spinsat and this morning we're going to 8 00:00:28,630 --> 00:00:25,680 learn more about cyclops 9 00:00:31,029 --> 00:00:28,640 from nasa's cyclops project manager 10 00:00:32,950 --> 00:00:31,039 daniel newswander 11 00:00:34,709 --> 00:00:32,960 he is from the structural engineering 12 00:00:36,069 --> 00:00:34,719 division here at the johnson space 13 00:00:38,069 --> 00:00:36,079 center and he's 14 00:00:40,709 --> 00:00:38,079 taken some time to come by and join us 15 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:40,719 here to talk about that uh danny thanks 16 00:00:44,150 --> 00:00:42,320 a lot for joining us coming by you're 17 00:00:45,190 --> 00:00:44,160 welcome it's great to be here uh well 18 00:00:47,590 --> 00:00:45,200 let's see 19 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:47,600 let's start out by just a few questions 20 00:00:51,510 --> 00:00:48,559 to say 21 00:00:53,430 --> 00:00:51,520 where did this idea come from why why is 22 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:53,440 there a need for this type of 23 00:00:57,189 --> 00:00:54,960 deployer when we have you know other 24 00:00:58,630 --> 00:00:57,199 ones that we've used in the past well 25 00:01:00,389 --> 00:00:58,640 that's a good question 26 00:01:01,830 --> 00:01:00,399 early on it came from 27 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:01,840 several engineers sitting in a room 28 00:01:06,390 --> 00:01:04,159 trying to come up with ideas to 29 00:01:08,149 --> 00:01:06,400 enhance or take advantage of the space 30 00:01:09,510 --> 00:01:08,159 station the capability it has it's a 31 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:09,520 great resource and we wanted to take 32 00:01:12,870 --> 00:01:11,360 advantage of that 33 00:01:15,550 --> 00:01:12,880 we were aware the japanese were building 34 00:01:18,230 --> 00:01:15,560 a cubesat deployer the cubesat is a 35 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:18,240 standardized cube if you will but we 36 00:01:21,670 --> 00:01:19,840 were also aware of several satellites 37 00:01:23,670 --> 00:01:21,680 out there that were if you want to call 38 00:01:25,670 --> 00:01:23,680 them geometrically challenging for 39 00:01:27,830 --> 00:01:25,680 example spin set is a big sphere it's 40 00:01:31,429 --> 00:01:27,840 about a 22 inch 41 00:01:33,350 --> 00:01:31,439 diameter 52 kilogram sphere so 42 00:01:35,590 --> 00:01:33,360 that doesn't really fit into a cubesat 43 00:01:37,749 --> 00:01:35,600 deployer so we came up with an idea to 44 00:01:39,510 --> 00:01:37,759 try to utilize take advantage of as much 45 00:01:41,270 --> 00:01:39,520 of the airlock as we could 46 00:01:43,830 --> 00:01:41,280 and take advantage of some of these 47 00:01:45,830 --> 00:01:43,840 geometrically challenging or larger 48 00:01:48,469 --> 00:01:45,840 satellites well you uh 49 00:01:50,149 --> 00:01:48,479 you touched on already with japan being 50 00:01:52,310 --> 00:01:50,159 involved obviously but 51 00:01:54,469 --> 00:01:52,320 the japanese and the canadian hardware 52 00:01:56,310 --> 00:01:54,479 that's on the station obviously 53 00:01:57,670 --> 00:01:56,320 obviously there was a big development 54 00:01:59,749 --> 00:01:57,680 team and you mentioned it who who 55 00:02:01,670 --> 00:01:59,759 actually made up that team that you're 56 00:02:03,429 --> 00:02:01,680 that you're on wow um 57 00:02:05,350 --> 00:02:03,439 yeah we had a very good group we had a 58 00:02:07,190 --> 00:02:05,360 very big group as you mentioned we 59 00:02:08,869 --> 00:02:07,200 interfaced with the japanese airlock the 60 00:02:10,710 --> 00:02:08,879 robotic airlock we interface with the 61 00:02:12,390 --> 00:02:10,720 japanese robotic arm 62 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:12,400 the canadian arm was another interface 63 00:02:16,150 --> 00:02:14,640 of ours so there was a lot of 64 00:02:17,510 --> 00:02:16,160 interaction with their engineering 65 00:02:18,710 --> 00:02:17,520 communities their operational 66 00:02:20,470 --> 00:02:18,720 communities so there was a big 67 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:20,480 international effort here in essence 68 00:02:23,830 --> 00:02:22,319 cyclops is an international project when 69 00:02:25,510 --> 00:02:23,840 you really look at it 70 00:02:28,070 --> 00:02:25,520 we also had 71 00:02:29,990 --> 00:02:28,080 a very extensive nasa team 72 00:02:31,830 --> 00:02:30,000 engineers we worked a lot with the 73 00:02:33,589 --> 00:02:31,840 international space station program with 74 00:02:36,710 --> 00:02:33,599 their engineers so the logistics their 75 00:02:38,710 --> 00:02:36,720 operations their payload safety tod stp 76 00:02:40,710 --> 00:02:38,720 the space test program that's here 77 00:02:42,949 --> 00:02:40,720 locally they helped us get the 78 00:02:44,470 --> 00:02:42,959 satellites uh spins as you said was an 79 00:02:46,309 --> 00:02:44,480 av satellite but they really helped us 80 00:02:48,070 --> 00:02:46,319 interface with that 81 00:02:50,229 --> 00:02:48,080 they also provided a lot of experience 82 00:02:52,390 --> 00:02:50,239 and expertise to really help us be 83 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:52,400 successful so you're right it was a huge 84 00:02:56,390 --> 00:02:54,959 team it was very it was actually my 85 00:02:57,589 --> 00:02:56,400 favorite part of the whole process is 86 00:03:00,309 --> 00:02:57,599 interfacing with all these different 87 00:03:02,830 --> 00:03:00,319 entities and coming together as a as an 88 00:03:03,990 --> 00:03:02,840 international community and the teamwork 89 00:03:06,229 --> 00:03:04,000 yeah um 90 00:03:08,309 --> 00:03:06,239 let's take an opportunity because uh the 91 00:03:10,949 --> 00:03:08,319 japan aerospace exploration agency 92 00:03:13,509 --> 00:03:10,959 provided us some animation of the 93 00:03:15,990 --> 00:03:13,519 procedure so uh if you will walk us 94 00:03:18,630 --> 00:03:16,000 through this while we look at it here uh 95 00:03:21,030 --> 00:03:18,640 danny most definitely so actually what 96 00:03:24,470 --> 00:03:21,040 you're seeing here is uh footage of the 97 00:03:26,550 --> 00:03:24,480 astronauts uh installing cyclops and 98 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:26,560 spin set into the airlock 99 00:03:31,030 --> 00:03:29,040 um i believe that is butch he's doing 100 00:03:33,110 --> 00:03:31,040 some final maneuvers there to make sure 101 00:03:35,350 --> 00:03:33,120 that everything is good to go once it's 102 00:03:37,270 --> 00:03:35,360 installed by the astronauts it is 103 00:03:39,509 --> 00:03:37,280 processed through the airlock and here 104 00:03:42,229 --> 00:03:39,519 you actually see some deployment 105 00:03:44,070 --> 00:03:42,239 the deployment of the satellite um as 106 00:03:45,670 --> 00:03:44,080 you can see it went off fairly smooth it 107 00:03:46,390 --> 00:03:45,680 does have a little bit of a rotation to 108 00:03:50,550 --> 00:03:46,400 it 109 00:03:52,630 --> 00:03:50,560 was actually speechless we had worked on 110 00:03:55,509 --> 00:03:52,640 this for about three years where are you 111 00:03:57,030 --> 00:03:55,519 when actually when this is going on we 112 00:03:59,110 --> 00:03:57,040 had a good team that supported down in 113 00:04:00,789 --> 00:03:59,120 the mission evaluation room okay so 114 00:04:01,990 --> 00:04:00,799 you're you're right below us we were 115 00:04:04,229 --> 00:04:02,000 there we were listening to the whole 116 00:04:06,390 --> 00:04:04,239 thing we heard the japanese applaud as 117 00:04:08,149 --> 00:04:06,400 the satellite went off um this is the 118 00:04:10,070 --> 00:04:08,159 first time they'd used their small fine 119 00:04:11,990 --> 00:04:10,080 armor their japanese robotic arm and so 120 00:04:13,509 --> 00:04:12,000 they were extremely excited about this 121 00:04:15,830 --> 00:04:13,519 well obviously what we just watched was 122 00:04:17,030 --> 00:04:15,840 the actual footage from the preparation 123 00:04:19,270 --> 00:04:17,040 that you mentioned by butch in the 124 00:04:21,349 --> 00:04:19,280 actual deployment um now let's take a 125 00:04:23,270 --> 00:04:21,359 look at the animation and you can talk a 126 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:23,280 little bit through that procedure 127 00:04:26,150 --> 00:04:24,800 okay so here's an animation this is 128 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:26,160 courtesy of the 129 00:04:31,030 --> 00:04:29,600 of the japanese it shows cyclops and 130 00:04:33,830 --> 00:04:31,040 spin set coming out of the airlock the 131 00:04:36,390 --> 00:04:33,840 robotic arm coming over and attaching to 132 00:04:37,830 --> 00:04:36,400 cyclops and picking cyclops up then what 133 00:04:40,310 --> 00:04:37,840 it does is it takes it out to its 134 00:04:41,909 --> 00:04:40,320 deployment position it initiates the 135 00:04:43,430 --> 00:04:41,919 deployment as you'll see here in a sec 136 00:04:44,870 --> 00:04:43,440 and then that video we just watched 137 00:04:46,469 --> 00:04:44,880 previously where you actually see the 138 00:04:48,469 --> 00:04:46,479 deployment 139 00:04:50,710 --> 00:04:48,479 this is what we envisioned it to look 140 00:04:52,870 --> 00:04:50,720 like you did have a different angle in 141 00:04:55,189 --> 00:04:52,880 the previous one notice in the animation 142 00:04:56,870 --> 00:04:55,199 there is no rotation to the satellite 143 00:04:59,670 --> 00:04:56,880 we did notice some rotation to the 144 00:05:01,670 --> 00:04:59,680 satellite were you expecting rotation or 145 00:05:03,110 --> 00:05:01,680 or does it really matter in the in this 146 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:03,120 case um 147 00:05:06,469 --> 00:05:04,960 we weren't really expecting a lot of i 148 00:05:08,790 --> 00:05:06,479 mean you always learned something from 149 00:05:11,270 --> 00:05:08,800 anything that happens i mean but one of 150 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:11,280 the challenges of something like this is 151 00:05:15,430 --> 00:05:13,120 you're trying to develop a system down 152 00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:15,440 here on the ground in earth that you're 153 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:16,880 going to be using up in space and they 154 00:05:20,790 --> 00:05:19,120 don't always behave exactly like you 155 00:05:22,870 --> 00:05:20,800 think so you put a lot of effort and 156 00:05:24,550 --> 00:05:22,880 robustness into trying to figure out all 157 00:05:25,749 --> 00:05:24,560 the variables figure out all the things 158 00:05:27,350 --> 00:05:25,759 that could happen 159 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:27,360 and so yeah we were a little surprised 160 00:05:30,550 --> 00:05:29,199 about the rotation there are a couple 161 00:05:32,230 --> 00:05:30,560 other things we're a little surprised 162 00:05:33,830 --> 00:05:32,240 about but we're going to go off and work 163 00:05:35,510 --> 00:05:33,840 though so that the next satellites that 164 00:05:37,110 --> 00:05:35,520 use it it'll be better understood and 165 00:05:39,510 --> 00:05:37,120 it'd be a better experience for well 166 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:39,520 that leads me to my last 167 00:05:44,070 --> 00:05:42,240 major question for you and that is uh 168 00:05:46,469 --> 00:05:44,080 obviously you described already how that 169 00:05:49,909 --> 00:05:46,479 went and everybody's reaction to it but 170 00:05:53,749 --> 00:05:49,919 um so what's next for for the cyclops 171 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:53,759 team in terms of future operations um 172 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:54,880 cyclops is going to stay on the 173 00:05:59,029 --> 00:05:56,639 international space station it was built 174 00:06:00,870 --> 00:05:59,039 to be there for the duration and by the 175 00:06:02,550 --> 00:06:00,880 way you're seeing a photograph here and 176 00:06:03,749 --> 00:06:02,560 that's beautiful that's my favorite 177 00:06:05,830 --> 00:06:03,759 photograph of all the ones you're going 178 00:06:07,110 --> 00:06:05,840 to see and it's i kind of think of it as 179 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:07,120 like when you see a sports team a 180 00:06:10,390 --> 00:06:08,560 football team going out to get on the 181 00:06:11,990 --> 00:06:10,400 field and play and they're all in the 182 00:06:14,150 --> 00:06:12,000 corridor there and the tunnel getting 183 00:06:15,909 --> 00:06:14,160 ready to go it's kind of like here we go 184 00:06:16,790 --> 00:06:15,919 we've been planning this for years here 185 00:06:18,870 --> 00:06:16,800 we go 186 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:18,880 great shot of the deployment 187 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:20,560 but pretty much what we 188 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:22,000 built was for something to stay on the 189 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:23,520 international space station like i 190 00:06:26,870 --> 00:06:24,880 mentioned for satellites in the 191 00:06:29,110 --> 00:06:26,880 satellite community that aren't the 192 00:06:30,150 --> 00:06:29,120 cubesat variety so they can use it so 193 00:06:32,070 --> 00:06:30,160 it's going to stay up there and be 194 00:06:34,710 --> 00:06:32,080 housed inside the space station and be 195 00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:34,720 used for future deployments 196 00:06:37,909 --> 00:06:36,639 we have three or four lined up right now 197 00:06:39,350 --> 00:06:37,919 that we're working with to try to get 198 00:06:41,990 --> 00:06:39,360 them up there and we're very very 199 00:06:44,390 --> 00:06:42,000 excited and anticipating their successes 200 00:06:46,309 --> 00:06:44,400 as well well danny i tell you we're as 201 00:06:48,070 --> 00:06:46,319 excited probably as you because we we 202 00:06:51,270 --> 00:06:48,080 just love watching stuff like that and 203 00:06:53,110 --> 00:06:51,280 seeing the success of the program and 204 00:06:54,629 --> 00:06:53,120 we really appreciate you stopping by 205 00:06:57,589 --> 00:06:54,639 this morning and talking to us a little 206 00:06:58,550 --> 00:06:57,599 bit about cyclops uh danny newswander 207 00:07:03,909 --> 00:06:58,560 the 208 00:07:05,029 --> 00:07:03,919 johnson space center and so now let's 209 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:05,039 take a look